Pictured above are the most common type of Put and Takes. when you read words on the sides (almost always the six-sided ones) is the handle on the right or the left? solid put & takes, OR bi-level ones (very rare -- see tops #7 and #8 in the large table below). are the words/letters printed, engraved, or embossed (rare)? the particular words/letters on the sides and the order they are in. any name on the spinner (advertising name or maker's name)? -- I thank Marianne Jager, of the Netherlands, for the above picture of her ancient Put and Take spinner and the following informatrion. The top has 6 letters: A (al = take all), B (bij = add? BOTH ARE 2 1/4" TALL TO TOP OF WOOD HANDLES X 1 1/16" WIDE. I finally got a nice one on e Bay for somewhat less in March 2011. If it had landed Jack Two, it would be a pair of Jacks. Dealer said, "Bottom die reads: "Ball, Hit, Ball, Strike, Foul, Strike" Top die reads: "H. The P1 side is just the opposite: straight-flat at the bottom, and rounded at the top. This spinner is celluloid, 1-1/2," from my collection. This is a modern Put and Take (maker calls it a "spinner" and "dreidel") that I first noticed appearing on e Bay in October 2008. The one on the left weighs a very high 56 grams (2 ounces! left one: 10-sided: TAKE ONE, PUT TWO, TAKE THREE, ALL PUT, PUT FIVE, TAKE TWO, PUT ONE, TAKE ALL, PUT THREE, SPIN AGAIN. Seller said, "Game includes authentic solid brass Put'n'Take spinner (1"x1/2"), carry pouch, counters and instructions in a compact display box". "WTA" - Winner Take All: The spinner wins the whole pot! Note how the front of the replica unscrews to become a Put & Take. This tiny device (only about 1 3/16" tall x 5/8" wide; weights only .2 oz.! Perfect for any gambling, gaming, or put & take collection / display." Vintage? This small gaming device is unusual in that it is nickel plated, about 1 1/8" tall x 11/16" wide, and weights a mere .2 oz.." "NICE OLD [? 1-1/4 inches, 10 grams, non-magnetic, easy to pick up and spin, and spins very well. The dealer who sold it to me had nine of them, calls them vintage, but I wonder. Per seller: "6-sided spinner for the game "toma todo" aka "put and take." Sides are labeled in Spanish. Seller says: "Listed is an antique ( 3 in 1 ) put & take, dice & marking pencil. The clip on pencil has a put & take on one end that screws into pencil. And on the other end has a pencil point that goes in & out of the tip.? I can make out these sections: Take All (with star), P1, T3, P2, All Put, T2.... It looks like there are beads on a wire, below -- to keep score? The instructions for all games are printed around the sides, including Roulette, Odd Or Even, Hi-Lo, Play The Flags, Play The Marbles, and Put And Take.
They were usually small, about an inch high, and made of brass. She says, "In the Netherlands 18th 19th century they made spinners from silver, like in the picture. Lengh 3.2 cm, weight 6.8 gram "The letters on each of the 6 sides: A - only take B - to pay N - nothing to take T - take D - double put S put." She adds, "The letters on the sides are difficult to read, old fashioned Dutch," so she is giving an approximate translation. That much is for sure." In a reference work, she found, "... ), S (set=put), T (trek= take), D (dubbel=double) and N (niet=not, nothing)." None of this should be surprising, what with the Teetotum gambling top being known in ancient Greece and the Dreidel (put and take instructions on the four-sided spinner) being developed in 16th century Germany -- source here . ONE IS RED AND CREAM BAKELITE AND ONE IS GREEN AND CREAM BAKELITE. Just goes to show that prices fluctuate, so you can wait for the right price (sometimes).] "The top level reads TEN, NINE, ACE, KING, QUEEN, and JACK. It is lightweight, made of aluminum, and has a hole in the stem to accommodate a key chain. right one: 8-sided: TAKE ONE, PUT TWO, TAKE THREE, ALL PUT, TAKE TWO, PUT ONE, TAKE ALL, PUT THREE. Same seller, also called vintage with many listings. ] PUT AND TAKE SOLID BRASS SPINNER IN EXCELLENT CONDITION, ALL THE NUMBERS & LETTERS ARE ALL ALMOST PERFECT, NO MAJOR DENTS. " Looks modern to me, looks similar to these "Rocky Top" spinners, which are admittedly modern. P1 = pon 1, P2 = pon 2, Todos Ponen, T1 = toma 1, T2 = toma 2, Toma Todo. All these are only about each, but kind of cheap, plain looking, worth no more than that. They say, "7-sided heptagonal top / spinner / dreidel for the game put-and-take, aka toma todo. I was turned off by the big size of the item: "The size of the box is 9"x15"." The description said: ""A game of chance with dice and chips." Box top has staining, major corner and edgewear, one torn side and a small amount of graphic loss at one corner, otherwise solid. The top piece is designed to hold a single "D" battery with an attached light on the underside of the lid.
They can be distinguished from each other in a variety of ways, as is apparent on this page. "Anyway, the letters stand for put and take, inclusive: nothing (spin again? about women in the beginning of the 18th century ... Click here to read an enlargement of the text at the bottom of that page. BOTH EXCELLENT CONDITION." Both of them have "SPINIM" brand name on the top near the handle, and patent number 1374243. The Put & Take one has Ts and Ps on the upper level and on the lower level: 0 1 4 A 2 3. I had never seen this before till February 2009 when it went for 5 on e Bay. The bottom half reads STRAI'T, FOUR, FLUSH, TWO, FULL HOUSE, and THREE." The patent number and date on my personal top is very clear: "Patented April 1921 No. Seller says: "UNUSUAL NICKEL PLATED ANTIQUE PUT&TAKE GAMBLING DEVICE . IT MEASURES ABOUT 1 3/8" LONG X 3/4" AT IT'S WIDES POINT" per dealer LAMB 534, May 2011. 2012 as "Vintage Put and Take dice game brass spinning piece. cm: 1.904 w x 2.78 d x 1.648 h in: 0.75 w x 1.094 d x 0.649 h ." I gather the 6 sides are: P1, P2, T1, T2, Todos Ponen (All Put), and Toma Todo (Take All). Like the above one, "Shapeways 3D Printing Service and Marketplace" made on a 3D printer. Seller: "Centermeter: 2.016 w x 3.324 d x 2.016 h ... An 8-sided spinner/top labeled for the game put-and-take. They also sell: "Unlabeled 8-sided spinner with a unique umbrella shape. Sides are labeled as follows: AP = all put, P1 = put 1, P2 = put 2, TA = take all, T1 = take 1, T2 = take 2, and star. Contents are COMPLETE and in excellent condition." Seller says, "Wonderful walking stick cane with a hidden secret, bakelite handle decorated with a white metal 4 leafs-clover ... Spin top battery box and figural airplane pointer moves around the board as light shines through the underside of the marbles. 2011: "Vintage Transogram Put'n Take dart game in old box.
groups (bags) "5" and "7," above, are 6-sided tops, and as such invariably have words on the sides and must be read with the top lying on its side -- the words are lined up with the stem of the put and take top (go in the same direction as/are parallel to the length of the stem) . words/letters read with the stem being upright (invariably, 8-sided put & takes) OR with the stem held horizontally (invariably, 6-sided put & takes). words (eg., "take all") OR letters (eg., "TA") on the sides. smooth handle/stem OR knurled/serrated handle/stem. One of the most surprising (to me) things said there is: "'Put and Take' .... racehorses of the 20th century." See 8 of these tops in original box here. Both the top (much bigger and heavier than most: c. "Also known as "The Sport of Kings," and often linked with gambling, flat racing has been a popular sport for hundreds of years. The Poker one has on the upper level: FULLH, 3, STRT, 4, FLUSH, 2; and on lower level: A K Q J 10 9. It looks nice, but is a TERRIBLE spinner -- it simply hardly ever can be gotten to spin! I soaked it in WD-40, but still could not unscrew it to correct it. The seller described it as: "Bi-level poker top ... I ordered one (July 2013), and it just arrived in a 12" x 12" x 12" box. Per Shapeways: "Dice version of the spinning top game "put and take." One die is labeled the other is labeled . Can be used as a D8 die, or labeled with options for the game "put and take" or "toma todo." Picture here. The star can be used as an extra rule, for example, all take, take one from everyone one, everyone takes one from you, take half, put half, etc. hides 3 dice and one brass put and take, or teetotum spinner, which fit into the handle .... Measures 10 1/4" in diameter and stands 5 1/2" high. Nine "sides" or commands in this order: take all, put three, take two, all put, take three, put one, re-spin (spin again), take one, put two. Box is bent out of shape and had some water damage in one corner.
8-sided tops, like the two typical ones on the left, have smaller sides than the 6-sided ones so the commands are in single letters, numerals, and symbols such as stars (*) and zeros (0). The one on the far left has these outcomes on the 8 sides: * (star means take all), T3, P1, T2, 0 (zero means all put), P3, T1, and P4.Look here 1921 New York Times news story of Women's Christian Temperance Union denouncing Put and Takes by name. The cheat pushes the central spindle up or down as he passes the top to a player. Also available as eight sided and ten sided Put & Take. The top is stamped, oxidized and then buffed with steel wool to lighten up the high spots. Manually machined from 1/2" solid brass hex and tipped with a silicon nitride ball bearing. Seller, historyfanatic, from Charleston IN, said, "While this top is made to replicate an original IVORY top, ours is reproduced in a resin-based artificial ivory. "Sure this game is available elsewhere but, as a bonus, we actually throw in 4 extra coins, so you get a total of 16 coins instead of the standard 12. We offer even more coins that are great to add or add replica coins from your own collection. Per the instruction sheet: "lose spin" means the spin goes to next player clockwise (to left); "put" means each player puts a chip (or amount) into pot; "take" means the spinner takes the pot; and "to decrease spinning time of the spinner, spin on a paper or cocktail napkin." First use and trade mark registered in 19, respectively. "P2" - Put 2: The spinner puts (pays) 2 into the pot. Unusual in that the letters are upright, not sideways. Gamp Sports "Spin & Win." Per Gamps: "Gamp Sports is excited to re-introduce this classic Spin & Win game with a top made from solid brass. COMMEMORATING THE ROYAL WELSH FUSILIERS AND THE BATTLE OF THE SOMME 1916. In June and early July 1916, ten battalions of the Royal Welch Fusiliers (RWF) became part of the British Army's huge concentration of men and firepower which, together with the French Army on the right flank, was to assault the German front line in Northern France. Per seller:"This listing is for one put and take spinner with carrying case. There is an emphasis on balance for a great spin, it is tough and has a personality of its own. Seller ID 1knifeguy1 (West Coast Trading Post) of Fairfield, CA, calls them "vintage" brass Put and Takes and lists them many times. PLAYING CARDS ANTIQUE CARD GAME VERY RARE GIVANTAKE PUT TAKE WITH CARDS 1910 A RARE COMPLETE SET OF 20 CARDS TO PLAY THE GAME OF GIVANTAKE A CARD GAME THAT IS PLAYED IN THE SAME MANNER AS A PUT AND TAKE SPINNER TO BE PLAYED BY BETWEEN 3 AND 8 PERSONS AN EARLY VERY EASY TO PLAY GAMBLING GAME CARDS IN VERY GOOD CONDITION ALL SHOWN IN PHOTOS COMPLETE WITH USUALLY MISSING PACKET WHICH IS IN VERY GOOD CONDITION IT HAS THE RULES OF PLAY PRINTED TO THE REVERSE." Patrick Molloy, a collector from the U. L2 R1, R2, K1, K2, PUT ALL & TAKE KITTY,, L1/R1 means barrel moves 1 or 2 players left or right, k1.k2 means put 1 or 2 into the kitty, take kitty means take all from the kitty. I've collected put & takes and other pocket gambling games for years, but I've never seen one of these before. Pull tabs, spindle tickets and punch boards would be illegal in most places. Note it says "Put or Take." The ones below say "Put 'n' Take and Put-n-Take. These were probably given out as advertisements to induce sales. The top is just 1-3/16" long, the tray is 9" in diameter." It arrived, and I am very happy with it. It actually works, with a "D" battery (which I removed).1921 Illustrated London News article -- a full page picture and article entitled "PUT AND TAKE CRAZE : A SUBSITUTE FOR PITCH AND TOSS." It says there that "Put and Take ... 1921 "Ripley's Believe or Not" column on current Put & Take rage -- it had some wrong historical information, but said, "Of course you play that new game of the spinning top called Put and Take? The dark one near the upper right is a cube-shaped metal Put and Take. The two at the lower right and lower left have internal spinning dials. Guaranteed old and original." Per seller: Vintage Bakelite Top ... The white and red parts are bakelite - The spin seperately from each other so the final outcome is always random - The blue handle is wood with some wear to the paint - The markings on the white part are P and T and on the red you have 0 1 4 A 2 3 "It is marked "Spinim" on top with a patent number. Thus, all the players could spin the top clockwise, but would get different results depending which way the spindle was pushed. Here the body of the apinner is not rounded on both ends (as described in the row above), nor is it rounded on even one end (as with the red tops above). Seller says: "As usual it has the following markings: Put One, Take One, Put Two, Take Two, Take All, All Put. He states in e Bay auction, "This listing is for the Classic six sided solid brass spinning top game Put and Take. These can be spun as tops on a smooth surface with a little practice, but are designed to have a short spin time to keep the game moving. ".00 plus shipping." There is also a deluxe edition in a tin box, for a little more money; click here to see it. Manufacturer: Dan Kroll Industries Corporation, Billings, Montana. Pend" (for patent pending) is etched on top of top near handle. the casino game with a message: 'what goes around comes around.'" Comes with: put and take spinner, 4 colors of plastic common chips, purple sachel bag, instruction sheet and original box. Seller in UK says, "Modern Copy of the 1930's Brass Put & Take Spinning Top Dice Gambling Game." On e Bay (March 2015) he starts auction at plus shipping to U. "T1" - Take 1: The spinner takes (gets paid) 1 from the pot. This unique 8-sided version adds excitement with each spin. This offensive was to become known officially as the First Battle of the Somme. THE POCKET GAMING COIN TUBE / VESTA MATCH SAFE & STRIKER COMES WITH THE SOLID BRASS SPINNER GAME. These spinners are hand machined by my husband (Jim) from solid brass stock. The letters and numbers are then hand stamped onto each of the 6 sides of the piece. Each spinner comes with a free spun aluminum storage container (color may vary) that can be attached to a keychain. " Sold by the maker, in Pueblo, Colorado, for .50. With a little practice it can also be spun UPSIDE DOWN!! The dimensions are approximately 30mm long and 15mm wide at widest point. I live on a bush property with a small solar power system and make the spinners myself. Also called vintage and listed many times by the same seller. The top of the machine says "Test Your Skill For." That is just an attempt to call it a non-gambling game, which would be illegal in most places at that time. Apparently you put the finger of one hand through the loop and quickly push down that yellow piece with the other hand, and the blue piece is pushed out spinning. Patrick Molloy." June 2017, I paid plus postage for a boxed one on e Bay. I don't know why the store was named "Put & Take." The owner of the chip thinks it was a "general merchandise and clothing" store. If you spin the top and it gets close to the edge, it does NOT immediately tumble and stop -- rather, it just moves away from the edge and continues spinning, for the most part, and then it collapses and stops. You press down on the little red knob at the lower righrt to get the two "rotors" (wheels) to spin -- the "number rotor" (numbers 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5) and the "color rotor" (put, take and take all).It is the newest and latest craze to tempt our gambling instinct, and is all the rage all over the country. The reddish one near the top has a needle and thread inside. About half are made of catalin; others bone, wood, celluloid and ordinary plastic. Three of them are mechanical lead pencils that are to be rolled for the Put and Take effect. Once on that web page, you will see links for a drawing of the devise, abstract, description, claims, etc. It is also in about the 5th picture on this page, along with other bakelite tops. I bought these two on e Bay June 2013, 5 total delivered. I don't think there was a layout, and I don't think one played against the "house." Rather, like with poker dice, each player would spin his own "hand," and the highest hand would win. (Source.) The Put & Take shown here is from my collection. The spindle can be pushed to work in either direction. Rather, the "top is fixed so that a tap one way will make little weights enter the "Takes" [sides], while another tap will put the weights into the "Puts" [sides]. This top is illustrated in the explanatory drawings." (From "The Bunco Book," Walter B. The cheat could spin the top clockwise or counter-clockwise as he wished (as done with the three red celluloid spinners above.). As this is ten sided it also has Put Three, Take Three, Put Five, and Spin Again." Modern. Buy it now price is for ONE reproduction only (not original). See this link for patent, dates and corporate information. "T2" - Take 2: The spinner takes (gets paid) 2 from the pot. Perfectly balanced and weighing in at 24 grams, it is designed to spin perfectly for beginners and pros spinners alike." Price: .95 (February 2014). A SUPERB NOVELTY HAND CRAFTED WW 1 COMMEMORATIVE TOKEN KEEPSAKE. I spend quite sometime hand sanding them to get the balance just right and am very proud of them! Called by the e Bay seller: antique, brass, hollow in the inside, and no "top cover." June 2010. this piece has a brass rod that appears to be pressed into the inside of the base; and doesn't appear to have ever had, or needed, a top covering piece. (The "Rocky Top" spinners have serifs to the "T" and "P," which the ones pictured here do not have.) Non-magnetic, probably made of aluminum. Uner that, in a circle, is the name of the game: "Put & Take." Below that is, "Insert penny. Advertised on e Bay (wants 0 plus shipping) as a put and take, but I wonder. Dealer says: "Rare 1920s Trompolin Wooden Put & Take/Spinning Top/Teetotum w/Box&Instructions [in Spanish] ... Click here to see the instructions and British patent number. There are instructions printed on the inside of the top of the box. Made by the Durable Toy & Novelty Company of New York.Well, you will be surprised to know that it is one of the very oldest games in the world." To see it, click here and here. Two of the tops are celluloid advertising pieces -- one touts Manbeck's Bread ("A winner everywhere"); the other says "You don't gamble when you buy Trenton Crackers." The white 4-sided one at the bottom is made of ivory. The red one next to it is plastic with a compartment for solid perfume. The patent was made to cover all tops that were bi-level -- two separate rotating parts. This is the first bakelite bi-level POKER top I have ever seen. Dealer said, "2 RARE VINTAGE GAMING GAMBLING BAKELITE PUT & TAKE CARD GAME SPINNERS. patent number for 1921 are 1,364,063 and 1,401,947. For example, the one pictured here shows a queen-high flush. In the picture to the left, note how the side with the star is rounded on the bottom and straight-flat on the top. Gibson, 1946.) Tapping away (or pushing and pulling the handle), the cheat can make other players feed the kitty as often as he chooses, and can win whenever he wants. Here the sides are alternately round and flat on the tops and bottoms of the sides. Or maybe the cheats would have three differenet spinners that they could palm into the game as they wished. About 1-7/16 inch, The right one is a mite longer due to the bigger point/nipple. Although if you keep it in your pocket for a few days it will tarnish and take its newness away. I have had a brass put and take for many years, and played the game since I was 10 years old, previously it belonged to my father. "AP2" - All Pay 2: All players must put 2 into the pot. A LOVELY TRENCH ART STYLE PIECE." Here is a You Tube video of the maufacturing of these items. Here is another of Guss Parkin's creations: a replia of a famous WWI German military Zeppelin shot down near London in 1916, killing the entire crew of 22. Lots of good wishes, Graham." I have used the seller's pictures, one of which shows the top spinning upside down! Dealer said in part: "Unusual Antique brass gambling device called a "Put and Take". This piece has light patina on the brass, and a greenish verdigris on the inside. The six sides in order: T1, AP, T2, P1, TA, and P2. In the picture, you see "P2" and "Todos Ponen" (All Put). Push down on lever and release." There are 8 sections on the large dial. This is the exceedingly rare "Trompoln" Put & Take Spinning Top with launcher. Besides of being used for playing different table games, it can also be used as a traditional spinning top with launcher. This six-sided put and take is made of painted solid wood with water-transfer decal numbers on sides, tinplate "neck" and twisted wire launcher. Vintage / Antique Game ELECTRIC PUT-N-TAKE by Jim Prentice The Electric Game Co. This piece features tin construction with colorful litho throughout showing flags of the world, roulette wheel numbers, a world globe, Put And Take markings, and more.